Bringing the power of New Media to everyone
New Media Chat Transcript for November 24, 2009
[19:00] douglaswelch: Welcome to New Media Chat sponsored by New Media Interchange at http://newmediainterchange.com.
[19:00] douglaswelch: The conversation continues 24/7 on the New Media Interchange Community site at http://community.newmediainterchange.com. Post your questions and comments there in the days between these chats.
[19:00] douglaswelch: With that said, the chat room is open for your questions, and comments. How is everyone tonight?
[19:01] guest-13678 entered the room
[19:01] junglejenny: excellent!
[19:01] guest-13678 changed nickname to meganenloe
[19:01] rockwanderer: thumbs up
[19:01] douglaswelch: Things seem to be settling down/getting crazy as the holiday approaches
[19:01] meganenloe: A little?
[19:01] douglaswelch: If you didn't get a chance to watch/participate in Fabulous Find Fridays this week, I invite you to check things out on the NMI Community site
[19:02] michaelcuetta: is this show still happening?
[19:02] douglaswelch: Start collecting your favorite finds for this coming Friday
[19:02] douglaswelch: This is just a text chat tonight Michael
[19:02] junglejenny: I have a question, who uses worpress?
[19:03] douglaswelch: Ooo Ooo ME Me...but you already knew that
[19:03] meganenloe: I do but I'm always lost on it.
[19:03] junglejenny: Doug, your a god, thanks for helping me the other night.
[19:03] rockwanderer: is there a benifit to using wordpress over blogger?
[19:03] douglaswelch: Glad to help. I got a great post for Careers in New Media from your quandry
[19:03] michaelcuetta: is there a top blogs link for wordpress?
[19:04] junglejenny: I'm using wordpress as my website actually.
[19:04] douglaswelch: @michael Somrthing that shows the top links on the given blog?
[19:04] michaelcuetta: of the wordpress blogs, the most read
[19:04] douglaswelch: @rockwanderer these days I lean towards Wordpress for a couple of reasons but I still have 3 blogs on Blogger which were created years ago
[19:05] junglejenny: not sure.
[19:05] douglaswelch: @michael I think that the Wordpress.com home page http://wordpress.com has a list of the top blogs hosted there, since they can see all the stats from these hosted blogs
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[19:06] douglaswelch: @rockwanderer I like that Wordpress blogs can start on wordpress.com and then migrate up to a self-hosted Wordpress blog pretty easily
[19:06] guest-13837 changed nickname to tracypattin
[19:06] douglaswelch: Also, you can only get all the features of blogger now if you host on Blogspot. My Blogger blogs are actually hosted on my web site using the old fto method
[19:07] douglaswelch: Hey Tracy!
[19:07] tracypattin: hey doug!
[19:07] tracypattin: been busy dealing with my FTP site and thinking up Qs for the chat
[19:07] douglaswelch: Wordpress is powerful and with that power comes a complexity which can be intimidating
[19:07] douglaswelch: @Tracy Cool
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[19:08] guest-13874 changed nickname to facebook_user
[19:08] douglaswelch: The plugin interface of Wordpress also allows you to easily add features with little fuss
[19:08] douglaswelch: Hello facebook_user. You should be able to type /NICK to choose a name other than the default
[19:09] facebook_user: /nike burt.lo
[19:09] douglaswelch: Hi Burt!
[19:09] facebook_user: d'oh!
[19:09] douglaswelch: Heh
[19:09] facebook_user: hey, Douglas! First time here for me
[19:09] facebook_user changed nickname to burtlo
[19:09] douglaswelch: Welcome! If you have questions or comments, just shout them out and we will all chime in
[19:10] burtlo: any particular subject, or is it wordpress for tonight?
[19:10] douglaswelch: Overall, New Media, we just had a Wordpress question first off
[19:10] burtlo: ah.
[19:10] burtlo: i'm involved with PMI in San Diego
[19:11] douglaswelch: I had a few new posts on Careers in New Media this week, including my sessions from PodCampAZ 2weeks ago
[19:11] burtlo: we just moved the local chapter's website to Wordpress MU
[19:11] douglaswelch: Ah, for everyone MU stands for MultiUser.
[19:11] douglaswelch: Right?
[19:11] burtlo: yup
[19:12] junglejenny: does that mean multiple admins
[19:12] douglaswelch: This bridges Wordpress closer to a CMS (Content Mangement System) like Drupal or Joomla
[19:12] burtlo: yeah, you can have as many admins as you want and assign them sub-websites to manage
[19:12] junglejenny: interesting...
[19:12] douglaswelch: I am not terribly familiar with it, but I think it also allows you to establish writer->editor->admin workflows, too
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[19:12] burtlo: it's sucha different paradigm than I'm used to, and I haven't spent an awful lot of time with it
[19:13] burtlo: douglas, I believe you're right.
[19:13] douglaswelch: It only came out about a year ago, I think
[19:13] burtlo: we're defining industry specific sub-webs
[19:13] burtlo: assigning primary and 2nd admins
[19:13] douglaswelch: It is designed for big, group blog, web sites where there has to be more control and flowof content
[19:13] junglejenny: what is your website so I can look at an example
[19:13] douglaswelch: Cool
[19:13] douglaswelch: Yes, please, if it is available
[19:14] burtlo: pmi-sd.org
[19:14] michaelcuetta: is there a wordpress sublink that has most read blogs list?
[19:14] burtlo: if you're asking me, michael, I don't know
[19:15] junglejenny: nice theme michael
[19:15] douglaswelch: I tried to answer that question Michael, but I am sorry if I didn't. Are you looking for the most read blogs on the INternet or just those using wordpress
[19:15] burtlo: my involvement up to now has been minimal, but out thinking is to get industry leaders/bloggers posting with
[19:15] burtlo: develop the social network within PMs
[19:15] douglaswelch: Cool, Burt
[19:16] burtlo: Only those accepted as blog posters will be able to start threads
[19:16] douglaswelch: Quick questions to everyone...How often are you posting to your blogs/podcasts per week
[19:16] burtlo: zero for me
[19:16] junglejenny: starting ever other day for blogging...no podcasting yet
[19:16] junglejenny: once a week is my goal for podcasting
[19:17] douglaswelch: If find mine all go in fits and starts as material presents itsself, except for Career Opportunities which I try to keep weekly
[19:17] meganenloe: Daily for work but for my own just whenever I have something to say on my own blog.
[19:17] rockwanderer: usually a couple blogs a week, nothing interesting.
[19:17] douglaswelch: Once a week is good for podcasting. Daily seems to quickly become a grind and once a month seems like too long between shows
[19:18] junglejenny: does it make that much of a difference in seo if you blog once a day, every 2 days, etc
[19:18] tracypattin: I agree. That's what I've been doing..
[19:18] tracypattin: Good question Jenny!
[19:18] douglaswelch: While no outsider really knows the insides of Google's Search algorithm, frequent content seems to have an advantage.
[19:18] burtlo: can i ask what each of your are blogging/podcasting about?
[19:18] tracypattin: How do we manage our time? What is the most efficient way of building content?
[19:19] douglaswelch: I think posting frequently and regularly also simeply gives you more content for Google to consume. I often say that my SEO (Search Engine Optimization) method is to bury Google in content. :)
[19:19] tracypattin: I have a show called, New Media Tea Time "where hi tech meets low tech for tea and chocolate.
[19:19] junglejenny: reptiles, exotice animals, eco tourism, captive care, cool stuff
[19:19] burtlo: afaik, google's seo is primarily based on "relevance".
[19:19] burtlo: thanks tracy, jenny!
[19:19] douglaswelch: Career Opportunities on careers, A Gardener's Notebook, TechnologyIQ and Careers in New Media
[19:19] junglejenny: does it help when you add links inside your blog?
[19:20] tracypattin: it's a video show..Our biggest challenge is to get the word out..
[19:20] rockwanderer: nothing interestning just a personal blog.
[19:20] tracypattin: What I've found is having guests on the show is the best way to spread the word.
[19:20] junglejenny: That way they add your link to their website, etc
[19:20] douglaswelch: @Jenny Linking to yourself and others is considered good SEO, but especially having others link to you is most important
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[19:21] burtlo: that's the definition of "relevance", having others point to you
[19:21] junglejenny: OK, everyone starting adding junglejenny to your blogging.....just kidding
[19:21] burtlo: sorry, relevance is my work
[19:21] douglaswelch: @Tracy Yes, interviews and guests are one of the best methods as your guests almsot immediately tell their followers to check out the interview, etc
[19:21] burtlo: er, word
[19:21] burtlo: no reason not to do so. this is networking in effect, right?
[19:22] junglejenny: You know it!
[19:22] douglaswelch: I think relevance is important on the returned search results, defintiely, but you also have to get Google to discover your stuff and have something that it can consume
[19:22] douglaswelch: I consider linking to be "sharing the wealth" If I liked it, why not share it with others.
[19:23] guest-14249 changed nickname to curmudgeongal
[19:23] douglaswelch: Many of my blogs started as a place to put interesting items I found in my travels
[19:23] douglaswelch: Hello Alice!
[19:23] curmudgeongal: hi Doug, just got home
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[19:24] guest-14327 changed nickname to rockwanderer
[19:24] douglaswelch: BTW, My PodCampAZ sessions are now up in audio and video format at http://DouglasEWelch.com/newmedia - My Podcasting Process and Stay in Control of Your RSS Feed
[19:24] douglaswelch: Which also gives me a chance to remind everyone that you should record yourself any time you are speaking, teaching, presenting, whatever. Don't let that content disappear!
[19:25] curmudgeongal: what is our subject?
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[19:25] guest-14387 changed nickname to marylynn3
[19:25] douglaswelch: New Media in general. We started with a little Wordpress and then some talk about SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
[19:26] douglaswelch: Hey Mary Lynn
[19:26] marylynn3: Hey Douglas! Better late than never.
[19:26] douglaswelch: If you have a question or comment, shout it out and we will jump in
[19:26] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn True that! :)
[19:26] douglaswelch: The transcript will also be a avialable for anything you missed
[19:26] curmudgeongal: I want to know if anyone has put an album for sale on iTunes?
[19:27] junglejenny: nope
[19:27] burtlo: i know two people who have, but don't know about the process
[19:27] burtlo: lotta help that was, huh? ;-)
[19:27] douglaswelch: @Alice, one distributor I know about is http://cdbaby.com . They handle physical fulfillment but also digital distribution to itunes, Rhapsody and other online sales sites
[19:28] burtlo: so, are people using blogging for 1) journaling, 2) marketing, 3) both, 4) neither, 5) other?
[19:28] douglaswelch: My sister, Denise, was researching this for one of her clients and found another one. Let me see if I can dig up a link
[19:28] burtlo: basically I'm wondering if you are blogging primarily to share versus to attract
[19:28] burtlo: or both?
[19:28] douglaswelch: @Burt for me it is sharing, technical articles, my career column, garden column/journalling
[19:29] curmudgeongal: I blog and podcast to get my brilliant (LOL) opinions out into the world to share with the less knowledgable
[19:29] burtlo: doug, in effect, though, you put that out there to attract as well, right?
[19:29] douglaswelch: @Burt Oh, I think it can and should be used for both. You attract attention by sharing great information...either that info you create or that you found elsewhere
[19:29] burtlo: or would you post regardless?
[19:29] marylynn3: For us it is both - sharing and attracting. We are building a brand. We have been hired too b/c of the content on
[19:30] curmudgeongal: I would also like to develop a brand
[19:30] douglaswelch: One place I fall down is that I do attract attention, but I am very bad at monetizing that attention.
[19:30] burtlo: cool, marylynn. would you and alice tell me your blog/podcast subjects?
[19:31] burtlo: doug -- big struggle for me as well, monetizing my efforts
[19:31] curmudgeongal: mine are current events, politics, cultural topics and general stupidity that pisses me off
[19:31] marylynn3: @burtlo ours is personal & professional development. We're about living life on your own terms - its the way
[19:31] douglaswelch: @Alice Here is a direct link for CD Baby digital distribution info - https://members.cdbaby.com/SellMusicAndMore/DigitalDistribution.aspx
[19:31] burtlo: so, alice, what brand do you want to develop?
[19:32] curmudgeongal: I would like to build up the name "Curmudgeon Gal" and eventually have my own radio/podcast show
[19:32] douglaswelch: @Alice Here is the other distributor - http://tunecore.com
[19:33] curmudgeongal: thanks Doug!
[19:33] marylynn3: We use e-junkie for premium content we sell
[19:33] douglaswelch: MaryLynn has a great podast entitled BiggSuccess - http://biggsuccess.com
[19:33] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn Ah, hadn't heard of e-junkie
[19:33] douglaswelch: Had heard of http://premiumcast.com, though
[19:34] meganenloe: @curmudgeongal: I did the oposit. Built up PodcastJunky and now regreting it.
[19:34] marylynn3: Yes premiumcast is something we will use in the future. A little pricey for us right now
[19:34] douglaswelch: @meganenloe Still dealing with the "junky" in the name?
[19:34] curmudgeongal: I remember podcastjunky and listend to it often
[19:34] curmudgeongal: does premiumcast get wider exposure?
[19:35] douglaswelch: I am not sure if I mentioned PodcastJunky in my UCLA Class, but I think it might be in my resource pages, etc
[19:35] junglejenny: I'll check it out!
[19:35] douglaswelch: PRemiumcast is more about the back end than producing exposure, That is still up to you
[19:35] curmudgeongal: ok
[19:35] douglaswelch: They provide the sales and delivery mechanisms
[19:35] marylynn3: PodcastJunky is great! Wow, so nice to meet you in here!
[19:36] douglaswelch: @Alice Oh, also, you could sell your friend's downloads yourself using one of these services, too, in combination with iTunes or instead of
[19:36] meganenloe: Thanks all, I must dust off my mic one of these days.
[19:36] curmudgeongal: when you say backend are you referring to monetizing?
[19:36] douglaswelch: Oh oh, another Fan megan (LAUGH) Megan has such groupies. I am envious. (LAUGH)
[19:37] marylynn3: Another great source for selling content is https://kunaki.com/
[19:37] douglaswelch: @Alice more like taking payments, deliverign files, invoicing the customer, etc
[19:37] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn have to file that one away too
[19:37] burtlo: are any of you working with Sharepoint?
[19:37] curmudgeongal: ok, that's interesting too
[19:37] marylynn3: You create the CD cover and only pay a small amount per CD sold. The only downside - its a physical CD
[19:38] meganenloe: I have to cut out early. Time to get the kids ready for bed. Good By all
[19:38] junglejenny: interesting
[19:38] curmudgeongal: don't know sharepoint
[19:38] douglaswelch: Ah, that sounds like CD Baby's original system. Then they moved into digital distribution too
[19:38] burtlo: bye megan!
[19:38] douglaswelch: Night Megan!
[19:38] curmudgeongal: night Megan
[19:38] rockwanderer: "night :)
[19:38] burtlo: Sharepoint is MS's content management (on steroids!)
[19:39] burtlo: I'm still a newb, so I may not give the greatest answers
[19:39] douglaswelch: To get started sellgin stuff, you can also jsut to "hand fulfillment" You have a paypal button, get an email and then deliver the content via email or download link
[19:39] junglejenny: Doug, I gotta go too....comedy club tickets. You are all awesome!!! Thanks for the chat. :)
[19:39] burtlo: bye jenny!
[19:39] douglaswelch: No extra costs to get started.
[19:39] junglejenny: Become a fan of Jungle Jenny on facebook, just started it.
[19:39] marylynn3: Thanks Douglas for your kind words earlier about our podcast. I'm getting so caught up in the great conversati
[19:39] douglaswelch: Hehe heh
[19:40] burtlo: otw, jenny
[19:40] douglaswelch: That is exactly the purpose of the chats, to dive deeper for a little while
[19:40] marylynn3: Will look for you on FB jungle jenny
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[19:40] douglaswelch: If you have links to Facebook etc you can enter this information on your profile oj the NMI Community site, too
[19:41] guest-14884 entered the room
[19:41] douglaswelch: ...and today I started a Twitter list for NMI members. Send me you Twitter handle and I will add you
[19:42] guest-14884 changed nickname to sarahchar
[19:42] marylynn3: Cool!
[19:42] sarahchar: hello.. can only stay a coupla mins
[19:42] douglaswelch: If you have a show or blog, setting up a Facebook Fan Page can be a great way to engage people on Facebook, even if you don't spend all your time there
[19:42] douglaswelch: Hey Sarah!
[19:42] burtlo: hi sarah
[19:42] sarahchar: hey!
[19:42] curmudgeongal: to figure out how to market it. iTunes wants to pay $0,60 for royalty - no way!
[19:43] sarahchar: im wraping a proj this eve.. so cant stay but a few..
[19:43] douglaswelch: @Alice That is why it might be better to start out doing it yourself first. CD Baby takes 9% I think of purchase price
[19:43] burtlo: talking about wordpress, getting to know each other's blogs/casts, CD distribution
[19:43] burtlo: developing personal brands
[19:44] sarahchar: ahha
[19:44] burtlo: and reasons for blog/casting
[19:44] curmudgeongal: that sounds like a good idea, will check it out
[19:45] douglaswelch: @Alice The most basic process is to build a paypall button for the product and get that on the web site. When someone purchased it, you would get an email from PayPal with their email address. Y
[19:45] burtlo: any photographers here?
[19:45] douglaswelch: You could then either email it to them as an attachment or send them a download link that is good for 1-day or something
[19:45] douglaswelch: This would gauge the interest in the download and then you could move up to something more automated as sales increased
[19:46] douglaswelch: I am just a casual photog, but I believe Sarah is more "pro"
[19:46] sarahchar: photography.. = http://www.flickr.com/photos/14231083@N03/
[19:46] burtlo: as far as branding goes, i'm going in a couple directions
[19:46] marylynn3: Can you password protect a podcast on a WP page? Then provide that link with login info for pay?
[19:46] sarahchar: im only a pro when i'm paid fer it. ;)
[19:46] burtlo: otw, sarah
[19:46] douglaswelch: @BurtLo I just purchased http://DouglasEWelch.com to move my branding to a more personal level
[19:46] burtlo: i just started moving away from the personal
[19:47] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn You could do a password protected static page fo rsure. I Think you can do it in Wordpress too, but I haven't tried it
[19:47] sarahchar: i almost bought sarahchar.com because i see my name come up in so many random OLD links when I googled meself tday
[19:47] douglaswelch: Changed my main home page too to reflect shift in direction to New Media folcused
[19:47] burtlo: burtonlophotography.com --> invisionphotos.com
[19:47] sarahchar: then i thought.. oh.. im not like Doug Welch! lol
[19:47] douglaswelch: HA HA HAHAHAHA
[19:48] burtlo: wow, sarah! beautiful pictures!
[19:48] douglaswelch: Vanity, thy name is http://DouglasEWelch.com
[19:48] marylynn3: Douglas I like how you link to all of your blogs from your main DouglasEWelch.com
[19:48] burtlo: sarah, are you doing photos as a biz?
[19:49] douglaswelch: @Mary there was some discussion in my Mastermind group about that. Some thought it good, some bad. I saw it as examples of my New Media work, so I left them in
[19:49] curmudgeongal: I am pitiful with my web page, have my domain in my name and never did the page
[19:50] marylynn3: Sarah your pics are amazing. Just added you as a contact
[19:50] burtlo: curmudgeon, it's such an effort for me, i've got three domains and i often have no inspiration for how to pre
[19:50] douglaswelch: @Alice Check out http://NVU.com - This is a free web page Editor. Also, grab a friend or family member to get something up for you
[19:50] burtlo: me too, sarah
[19:50] curmudgeongal: same here, I just closed 2 of them down and forgot them
[19:50] douglaswelch: We all need a "place for our stuff" as George Carlin said
[19:51] burtlo: i've also got fitpm.com. that's the most minimal site yet. i did my photo site with iWeb.
[19:51] douglaswelch: You can even make a Wordpress blog as the main page. That makes entering new content easier since you don't have to edit pages, etc
[19:51] curmudgeongal: I'll check it out, I have used GoDaddy in the past and found it so cranky that it annoyed me to go in update
[19:51] burtlo: @doug, did you finish your thought about family members?
[19:52] douglaswelch: The easiest is to set up a http://wordpress.com blog, buy a custome domain and then point that domain at the Wordpress.com blog
[19:52] burtlo: @doug, any opinion on blogger.com?
[19:52] douglaswelch: @BurtLo Oh just something about getting a family member to put together a simple page, if nothing else
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[19:53] douglaswelch: As I mentioned earlier, I still have 3 blogs on Blogger. It is an acceptable choice. I lean towards Wordpress.com as you can easily migrate it to a full Wordpress install on your ownb site, if you wis
[19:53] curmudgeongal: I can do a simple page, it's the updating and fancy-ing up that gets me
[19:53] guest-15245 changed nickname to livingcareers
[19:54] curmudgeongal: I did a simple page for Blogger.com
[19:54] douglaswelch: @alice that is where a Blog really comes in handy. You focus on the content, not on fiddling with the pages
[19:54] curmudgeongal: ok, gotcha
[19:54] douglaswelch: @Alice I just did a short screencast on how you point a GoDaddy domain to a wordpress blog a few days ago
[19:55] douglaswelch: It is a video
[19:55] curmudgeongal: is it on your site?
[19:55] curmudgeongal: welchwrite.com
[19:56] douglaswelch: I think it must be on the NMI Site....Here it is http://newmediainterchange.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/screencast-forw...
[19:56] marylynn3: This site also has lots of blogger tips and templates
[19:56] marylynn3: http://www.bloggerbuster.com/
[19:56] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn Thanks!
[19:56] douglaswelch: Hello Living Careers!
[19:57] curmudgeongal: thank you!
[19:57] douglaswelch: I am trying to make sure when I answer a question for someone I do a screencast or blog post to share with everyone in NMI and on my blog
[19:58] douglaswelch: Again, it is about capturing the content we create and not letting it disappear. I think that relates
[19:58] douglaswelch: to something Burt asked earlier about how we generate content, etc
[19:58] douglaswelch: @LivingCareers if you have a question or comment just jump in :)
[19:59] curmudgeongal: Gotta go feed my dogs, thanks for all the info - bye for now!
[19:59] douglaswelch: Night Alice
[19:59] tracypattin: thanks!!
[19:59] douglaswelch: Sorry to those who arrived later, but it is now 8 pm and we usually wrap up about this time
[19:59] burtlo: later alice! thanks
[20:00] burtlo: thanks all. i had fun! see you around
[20:00] marylynn3: I just remembered a friend who uses http://www.shutterfly.com/ for photo sharing
[20:00] livingcareers: thanks Doug, will do
[20:00] douglaswelch: The conversation continues 24/7 though on the New Media Interchange Community site at http://community.newmediainterchange.com
[20:00] burtlo changed nickname to facebook_user
[20:00] douglaswelch: Post your questions there and we will all chime in!
[20:00] marylynn3: Thanks Douglas. I'm off to check out Nvu! Another fantastic NMI chat :)
[20:01] douglaswelch: Thank you all for coming! Visit the community site and fill out your profiles there.
[20:01] rockwanderer: cool. Catch you on the flip side.
[20:01] douglaswelch: From http://newmediainterchange.com you will also find a link to the NMI Email lsit for announcements of these chats and more
[20:01] livingcareers: bye for now, this was GREAT
[20:02] douglaswelch: The transcript of this chat will appear on both of these sites, too
[20:02] douglaswelch: Join us again in 2 weeks on Dec 8, 2009
[20:03] douglaswelch: Announcement of this upcoming will appear on all the New Media Interchange sites
[20:04] douglaswelch: Thanks again everyone! Bring your questions and we will help bring the power of New Media to you!
[20:05] douglaswelch: Be well all and Happy Thanksgiving!
[19:00] douglaswelch: The conversation continues 24/7 on the New Media Interchange Community site at http://community.newmediainterchange.com. Post your questions and comments there in the days between these chats.
[19:00] douglaswelch: With that said, the chat room is open for your questions, and comments. How is everyone tonight?
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[19:01] junglejenny: excellent!
[19:01] guest-13678 changed nickname to meganenloe
[19:01] rockwanderer: thumbs up
[19:01] douglaswelch: Things seem to be settling down/getting crazy as the holiday approaches
[19:01] meganenloe: A little?
[19:01] douglaswelch: If you didn't get a chance to watch/participate in Fabulous Find Fridays this week, I invite you to check things out on the NMI Community site
[19:02] michaelcuetta: is this show still happening?
[19:02] douglaswelch: Start collecting your favorite finds for this coming Friday
[19:02] douglaswelch: This is just a text chat tonight Michael
[19:02] junglejenny: I have a question, who uses worpress?
[19:03] douglaswelch: Ooo Ooo ME Me...but you already knew that
[19:03] meganenloe: I do but I'm always lost on it.
[19:03] junglejenny: Doug, your a god, thanks for helping me the other night.
[19:03] rockwanderer: is there a benifit to using wordpress over blogger?
[19:03] douglaswelch: Glad to help. I got a great post for Careers in New Media from your quandry
[19:03] michaelcuetta: is there a top blogs link for wordpress?
[19:04] junglejenny: I'm using wordpress as my website actually.
[19:04] douglaswelch: @michael Somrthing that shows the top links on the given blog?
[19:04] michaelcuetta: of the wordpress blogs, the most read
[19:04] douglaswelch: @rockwanderer these days I lean towards Wordpress for a couple of reasons but I still have 3 blogs on Blogger which were created years ago
[19:05] junglejenny: not sure.
[19:05] douglaswelch: @michael I think that the Wordpress.com home page http://wordpress.com has a list of the top blogs hosted there, since they can see all the stats from these hosted blogs
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[19:06] douglaswelch: @rockwanderer I like that Wordpress blogs can start on wordpress.com and then migrate up to a self-hosted Wordpress blog pretty easily
[19:06] guest-13837 changed nickname to tracypattin
[19:06] douglaswelch: Also, you can only get all the features of blogger now if you host on Blogspot. My Blogger blogs are actually hosted on my web site using the old fto method
[19:07] douglaswelch: Hey Tracy!
[19:07] tracypattin: hey doug!
[19:07] tracypattin: been busy dealing with my FTP site and thinking up Qs for the chat
[19:07] douglaswelch: Wordpress is powerful and with that power comes a complexity which can be intimidating
[19:07] douglaswelch: @Tracy Cool
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[19:08] douglaswelch: The plugin interface of Wordpress also allows you to easily add features with little fuss
[19:08] douglaswelch: Hello facebook_user. You should be able to type /NICK to choose a name other than the default
[19:09] facebook_user: /nike burt.lo
[19:09] douglaswelch: Hi Burt!
[19:09] facebook_user: d'oh!
[19:09] douglaswelch: Heh
[19:09] facebook_user: hey, Douglas! First time here for me
[19:09] facebook_user changed nickname to burtlo
[19:09] douglaswelch: Welcome! If you have questions or comments, just shout them out and we will all chime in
[19:10] burtlo: any particular subject, or is it wordpress for tonight?
[19:10] douglaswelch: Overall, New Media, we just had a Wordpress question first off
[19:10] burtlo: ah.
[19:10] burtlo: i'm involved with PMI in San Diego
[19:11] douglaswelch: I had a few new posts on Careers in New Media this week, including my sessions from PodCampAZ 2weeks ago
[19:11] burtlo: we just moved the local chapter's website to Wordpress MU
[19:11] douglaswelch: Ah, for everyone MU stands for MultiUser.
[19:11] douglaswelch: Right?
[19:11] burtlo: yup
[19:12] junglejenny: does that mean multiple admins
[19:12] douglaswelch: This bridges Wordpress closer to a CMS (Content Mangement System) like Drupal or Joomla
[19:12] burtlo: yeah, you can have as many admins as you want and assign them sub-websites to manage
[19:12] junglejenny: interesting...
[19:12] douglaswelch: I am not terribly familiar with it, but I think it also allows you to establish writer->editor->admin workflows, too
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[19:12] burtlo: it's sucha different paradigm than I'm used to, and I haven't spent an awful lot of time with it
[19:13] burtlo: douglas, I believe you're right.
[19:13] douglaswelch: It only came out about a year ago, I think
[19:13] burtlo: we're defining industry specific sub-webs
[19:13] burtlo: assigning primary and 2nd admins
[19:13] douglaswelch: It is designed for big, group blog, web sites where there has to be more control and flowof content
[19:13] junglejenny: what is your website so I can look at an example
[19:13] douglaswelch: Cool
[19:13] douglaswelch: Yes, please, if it is available
[19:14] burtlo: pmi-sd.org
[19:14] michaelcuetta: is there a wordpress sublink that has most read blogs list?
[19:14] burtlo: if you're asking me, michael, I don't know
[19:15] junglejenny: nice theme michael
[19:15] douglaswelch: I tried to answer that question Michael, but I am sorry if I didn't. Are you looking for the most read blogs on the INternet or just those using wordpress
[19:15] burtlo: my involvement up to now has been minimal, but out thinking is to get industry leaders/bloggers posting with
[19:15] burtlo: develop the social network within PMs
[19:15] douglaswelch: Cool, Burt
[19:16] burtlo: Only those accepted as blog posters will be able to start threads
[19:16] douglaswelch: Quick questions to everyone...How often are you posting to your blogs/podcasts per week
[19:16] burtlo: zero for me
[19:16] junglejenny: starting ever other day for blogging...no podcasting yet
[19:16] junglejenny: once a week is my goal for podcasting
[19:17] douglaswelch: If find mine all go in fits and starts as material presents itsself, except for Career Opportunities which I try to keep weekly
[19:17] meganenloe: Daily for work but for my own just whenever I have something to say on my own blog.
[19:17] rockwanderer: usually a couple blogs a week, nothing interesting.
[19:17] douglaswelch: Once a week is good for podcasting. Daily seems to quickly become a grind and once a month seems like too long between shows
[19:18] junglejenny: does it make that much of a difference in seo if you blog once a day, every 2 days, etc
[19:18] tracypattin: I agree. That's what I've been doing..
[19:18] tracypattin: Good question Jenny!
[19:18] douglaswelch: While no outsider really knows the insides of Google's Search algorithm, frequent content seems to have an advantage.
[19:18] burtlo: can i ask what each of your are blogging/podcasting about?
[19:18] tracypattin: How do we manage our time? What is the most efficient way of building content?
[19:19] douglaswelch: I think posting frequently and regularly also simeply gives you more content for Google to consume. I often say that my SEO (Search Engine Optimization) method is to bury Google in content. :)
[19:19] tracypattin: I have a show called, New Media Tea Time "where hi tech meets low tech for tea and chocolate.
[19:19] junglejenny: reptiles, exotice animals, eco tourism, captive care, cool stuff
[19:19] burtlo: afaik, google's seo is primarily based on "relevance".
[19:19] burtlo: thanks tracy, jenny!
[19:19] douglaswelch: Career Opportunities on careers, A Gardener's Notebook, TechnologyIQ and Careers in New Media
[19:19] junglejenny: does it help when you add links inside your blog?
[19:20] tracypattin: it's a video show..Our biggest challenge is to get the word out..
[19:20] rockwanderer: nothing interestning just a personal blog.
[19:20] tracypattin: What I've found is having guests on the show is the best way to spread the word.
[19:20] junglejenny: That way they add your link to their website, etc
[19:20] douglaswelch: @Jenny Linking to yourself and others is considered good SEO, but especially having others link to you is most important
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[19:21] burtlo: that's the definition of "relevance", having others point to you
[19:21] junglejenny: OK, everyone starting adding junglejenny to your blogging.....just kidding
[19:21] burtlo: sorry, relevance is my work
[19:21] douglaswelch: @Tracy Yes, interviews and guests are one of the best methods as your guests almsot immediately tell their followers to check out the interview, etc
[19:21] burtlo: er, word
[19:21] burtlo: no reason not to do so. this is networking in effect, right?
[19:22] junglejenny: You know it!
[19:22] douglaswelch: I think relevance is important on the returned search results, defintiely, but you also have to get Google to discover your stuff and have something that it can consume
[19:22] douglaswelch: I consider linking to be "sharing the wealth" If I liked it, why not share it with others.
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[19:23] douglaswelch: Many of my blogs started as a place to put interesting items I found in my travels
[19:23] douglaswelch: Hello Alice!
[19:23] curmudgeongal: hi Doug, just got home
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[19:24] guest-14327 changed nickname to rockwanderer
[19:24] douglaswelch: BTW, My PodCampAZ sessions are now up in audio and video format at http://DouglasEWelch.com/newmedia - My Podcasting Process and Stay in Control of Your RSS Feed
[19:24] douglaswelch: Which also gives me a chance to remind everyone that you should record yourself any time you are speaking, teaching, presenting, whatever. Don't let that content disappear!
[19:25] curmudgeongal: what is our subject?
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[19:25] guest-14387 changed nickname to marylynn3
[19:25] douglaswelch: New Media in general. We started with a little Wordpress and then some talk about SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
[19:26] douglaswelch: Hey Mary Lynn
[19:26] marylynn3: Hey Douglas! Better late than never.
[19:26] douglaswelch: If you have a question or comment, shout it out and we will jump in
[19:26] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn True that! :)
[19:26] douglaswelch: The transcript will also be a avialable for anything you missed
[19:26] curmudgeongal: I want to know if anyone has put an album for sale on iTunes?
[19:27] junglejenny: nope
[19:27] burtlo: i know two people who have, but don't know about the process
[19:27] burtlo: lotta help that was, huh? ;-)
[19:27] douglaswelch: @Alice, one distributor I know about is http://cdbaby.com . They handle physical fulfillment but also digital distribution to itunes, Rhapsody and other online sales sites
[19:28] burtlo: so, are people using blogging for 1) journaling, 2) marketing, 3) both, 4) neither, 5) other?
[19:28] douglaswelch: My sister, Denise, was researching this for one of her clients and found another one. Let me see if I can dig up a link
[19:28] burtlo: basically I'm wondering if you are blogging primarily to share versus to attract
[19:28] burtlo: or both?
[19:28] douglaswelch: @Burt for me it is sharing, technical articles, my career column, garden column/journalling
[19:29] curmudgeongal: I blog and podcast to get my brilliant (LOL) opinions out into the world to share with the less knowledgable
[19:29] burtlo: doug, in effect, though, you put that out there to attract as well, right?
[19:29] douglaswelch: @Burt Oh, I think it can and should be used for both. You attract attention by sharing great information...either that info you create or that you found elsewhere
[19:29] burtlo: or would you post regardless?
[19:29] marylynn3: For us it is both - sharing and attracting. We are building a brand. We have been hired too b/c of the content on
[19:30] curmudgeongal: I would also like to develop a brand
[19:30] douglaswelch: One place I fall down is that I do attract attention, but I am very bad at monetizing that attention.
[19:30] burtlo: cool, marylynn. would you and alice tell me your blog/podcast subjects?
[19:31] burtlo: doug -- big struggle for me as well, monetizing my efforts
[19:31] curmudgeongal: mine are current events, politics, cultural topics and general stupidity that pisses me off
[19:31] marylynn3: @burtlo ours is personal & professional development. We're about living life on your own terms - its the way
[19:31] douglaswelch: @Alice Here is a direct link for CD Baby digital distribution info - https://members.cdbaby.com/SellMusicAndMore/DigitalDistribution.aspx
[19:31] burtlo: so, alice, what brand do you want to develop?
[19:32] curmudgeongal: I would like to build up the name "Curmudgeon Gal" and eventually have my own radio/podcast show
[19:32] douglaswelch: @Alice Here is the other distributor - http://tunecore.com
[19:33] curmudgeongal: thanks Doug!
[19:33] marylynn3: We use e-junkie for premium content we sell
[19:33] douglaswelch: MaryLynn has a great podast entitled BiggSuccess - http://biggsuccess.com
[19:33] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn Ah, hadn't heard of e-junkie
[19:33] douglaswelch: Had heard of http://premiumcast.com, though
[19:34] meganenloe: @curmudgeongal: I did the oposit. Built up PodcastJunky and now regreting it.
[19:34] marylynn3: Yes premiumcast is something we will use in the future. A little pricey for us right now
[19:34] douglaswelch: @meganenloe Still dealing with the "junky" in the name?
[19:34] curmudgeongal: I remember podcastjunky and listend to it often
[19:34] curmudgeongal: does premiumcast get wider exposure?
[19:35] douglaswelch: I am not sure if I mentioned PodcastJunky in my UCLA Class, but I think it might be in my resource pages, etc
[19:35] junglejenny: I'll check it out!
[19:35] douglaswelch: PRemiumcast is more about the back end than producing exposure, That is still up to you
[19:35] curmudgeongal: ok
[19:35] douglaswelch: They provide the sales and delivery mechanisms
[19:35] marylynn3: PodcastJunky is great! Wow, so nice to meet you in here!
[19:36] douglaswelch: @Alice Oh, also, you could sell your friend's downloads yourself using one of these services, too, in combination with iTunes or instead of
[19:36] meganenloe: Thanks all, I must dust off my mic one of these days.
[19:36] curmudgeongal: when you say backend are you referring to monetizing?
[19:36] douglaswelch: Oh oh, another Fan megan (LAUGH) Megan has such groupies. I am envious. (LAUGH)
[19:37] marylynn3: Another great source for selling content is https://kunaki.com/
[19:37] douglaswelch: @Alice more like taking payments, deliverign files, invoicing the customer, etc
[19:37] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn have to file that one away too
[19:37] burtlo: are any of you working with Sharepoint?
[19:37] curmudgeongal: ok, that's interesting too
[19:37] marylynn3: You create the CD cover and only pay a small amount per CD sold. The only downside - its a physical CD
[19:38] meganenloe: I have to cut out early. Time to get the kids ready for bed. Good By all
[19:38] junglejenny: interesting
[19:38] curmudgeongal: don't know sharepoint
[19:38] douglaswelch: Ah, that sounds like CD Baby's original system. Then they moved into digital distribution too
[19:38] burtlo: bye megan!
[19:38] douglaswelch: Night Megan!
[19:38] curmudgeongal: night Megan
[19:38] rockwanderer: "night :)
[19:38] burtlo: Sharepoint is MS's content management (on steroids!)
[19:39] burtlo: I'm still a newb, so I may not give the greatest answers
[19:39] douglaswelch: To get started sellgin stuff, you can also jsut to "hand fulfillment" You have a paypal button, get an email and then deliver the content via email or download link
[19:39] junglejenny: Doug, I gotta go too....comedy club tickets. You are all awesome!!! Thanks for the chat. :)
[19:39] burtlo: bye jenny!
[19:39] douglaswelch: No extra costs to get started.
[19:39] junglejenny: Become a fan of Jungle Jenny on facebook, just started it.
[19:39] marylynn3: Thanks Douglas for your kind words earlier about our podcast. I'm getting so caught up in the great conversati
[19:39] douglaswelch: Hehe heh
[19:40] burtlo: otw, jenny
[19:40] douglaswelch: That is exactly the purpose of the chats, to dive deeper for a little while
[19:40] marylynn3: Will look for you on FB jungle jenny
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[19:40] douglaswelch: If you have links to Facebook etc you can enter this information on your profile oj the NMI Community site, too
[19:41] guest-14884 entered the room
[19:41] douglaswelch: ...and today I started a Twitter list for NMI members. Send me you Twitter handle and I will add you
[19:42] guest-14884 changed nickname to sarahchar
[19:42] marylynn3: Cool!
[19:42] sarahchar: hello.. can only stay a coupla mins
[19:42] douglaswelch: If you have a show or blog, setting up a Facebook Fan Page can be a great way to engage people on Facebook, even if you don't spend all your time there
[19:42] douglaswelch: Hey Sarah!
[19:42] burtlo: hi sarah
[19:42] sarahchar: hey!
[19:42] curmudgeongal: to figure out how to market it. iTunes wants to pay $0,60 for royalty - no way!
[19:43] sarahchar: im wraping a proj this eve.. so cant stay but a few..
[19:43] douglaswelch: @Alice That is why it might be better to start out doing it yourself first. CD Baby takes 9% I think of purchase price
[19:43] burtlo: talking about wordpress, getting to know each other's blogs/casts, CD distribution
[19:43] burtlo: developing personal brands
[19:44] sarahchar: ahha
[19:44] burtlo: and reasons for blog/casting
[19:44] curmudgeongal: that sounds like a good idea, will check it out
[19:45] douglaswelch: @Alice The most basic process is to build a paypall button for the product and get that on the web site. When someone purchased it, you would get an email from PayPal with their email address. Y
[19:45] burtlo: any photographers here?
[19:45] douglaswelch: You could then either email it to them as an attachment or send them a download link that is good for 1-day or something
[19:45] douglaswelch: This would gauge the interest in the download and then you could move up to something more automated as sales increased
[19:46] douglaswelch: I am just a casual photog, but I believe Sarah is more "pro"
[19:46] sarahchar: photography.. = http://www.flickr.com/photos/14231083@N03/
[19:46] burtlo: as far as branding goes, i'm going in a couple directions
[19:46] marylynn3: Can you password protect a podcast on a WP page? Then provide that link with login info for pay?
[19:46] sarahchar: im only a pro when i'm paid fer it. ;)
[19:46] burtlo: otw, sarah
[19:46] douglaswelch: @BurtLo I just purchased http://DouglasEWelch.com to move my branding to a more personal level
[19:46] burtlo: i just started moving away from the personal
[19:47] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn You could do a password protected static page fo rsure. I Think you can do it in Wordpress too, but I haven't tried it
[19:47] sarahchar: i almost bought sarahchar.com because i see my name come up in so many random OLD links when I googled meself tday
[19:47] douglaswelch: Changed my main home page too to reflect shift in direction to New Media folcused
[19:47] burtlo: burtonlophotography.com --> invisionphotos.com
[19:47] sarahchar: then i thought.. oh.. im not like Doug Welch! lol
[19:47] douglaswelch: HA HA HAHAHAHA
[19:48] burtlo: wow, sarah! beautiful pictures!
[19:48] douglaswelch: Vanity, thy name is http://DouglasEWelch.com
[19:48] marylynn3: Douglas I like how you link to all of your blogs from your main DouglasEWelch.com
[19:48] burtlo: sarah, are you doing photos as a biz?
[19:49] douglaswelch: @Mary there was some discussion in my Mastermind group about that. Some thought it good, some bad. I saw it as examples of my New Media work, so I left them in
[19:49] curmudgeongal: I am pitiful with my web page, have my domain in my name and never did the page
[19:50] marylynn3: Sarah your pics are amazing. Just added you as a contact
[19:50] burtlo: curmudgeon, it's such an effort for me, i've got three domains and i often have no inspiration for how to pre
[19:50] douglaswelch: @Alice Check out http://NVU.com - This is a free web page Editor. Also, grab a friend or family member to get something up for you
[19:50] burtlo: me too, sarah
[19:50] curmudgeongal: same here, I just closed 2 of them down and forgot them
[19:50] douglaswelch: We all need a "place for our stuff" as George Carlin said
[19:51] burtlo: i've also got fitpm.com. that's the most minimal site yet. i did my photo site with iWeb.
[19:51] douglaswelch: You can even make a Wordpress blog as the main page. That makes entering new content easier since you don't have to edit pages, etc
[19:51] curmudgeongal: I'll check it out, I have used GoDaddy in the past and found it so cranky that it annoyed me to go in update
[19:51] burtlo: @doug, did you finish your thought about family members?
[19:52] douglaswelch: The easiest is to set up a http://wordpress.com blog, buy a custome domain and then point that domain at the Wordpress.com blog
[19:52] burtlo: @doug, any opinion on blogger.com?
[19:52] douglaswelch: @BurtLo Oh just something about getting a family member to put together a simple page, if nothing else
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[19:53] douglaswelch: As I mentioned earlier, I still have 3 blogs on Blogger. It is an acceptable choice. I lean towards Wordpress.com as you can easily migrate it to a full Wordpress install on your ownb site, if you wis
[19:53] curmudgeongal: I can do a simple page, it's the updating and fancy-ing up that gets me
[19:53] guest-15245 changed nickname to livingcareers
[19:54] curmudgeongal: I did a simple page for Blogger.com
[19:54] douglaswelch: @alice that is where a Blog really comes in handy. You focus on the content, not on fiddling with the pages
[19:54] curmudgeongal: ok, gotcha
[19:54] douglaswelch: @Alice I just did a short screencast on how you point a GoDaddy domain to a wordpress blog a few days ago
[19:55] douglaswelch: It is a video
[19:55] curmudgeongal: is it on your site?
[19:55] curmudgeongal: welchwrite.com
[19:56] douglaswelch: I think it must be on the NMI Site....Here it is http://newmediainterchange.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/screencast-forw...
[19:56] marylynn3: This site also has lots of blogger tips and templates
[19:56] marylynn3: http://www.bloggerbuster.com/
[19:56] douglaswelch: @MaryLynn Thanks!
[19:56] douglaswelch: Hello Living Careers!
[19:57] curmudgeongal: thank you!
[19:57] douglaswelch: I am trying to make sure when I answer a question for someone I do a screencast or blog post to share with everyone in NMI and on my blog
[19:58] douglaswelch: Again, it is about capturing the content we create and not letting it disappear. I think that relates
[19:58] douglaswelch: to something Burt asked earlier about how we generate content, etc
[19:58] douglaswelch: @LivingCareers if you have a question or comment just jump in :)
[19:59] curmudgeongal: Gotta go feed my dogs, thanks for all the info - bye for now!
[19:59] douglaswelch: Night Alice
[19:59] tracypattin: thanks!!
[19:59] douglaswelch: Sorry to those who arrived later, but it is now 8 pm and we usually wrap up about this time
[19:59] burtlo: later alice! thanks
[20:00] burtlo: thanks all. i had fun! see you around
[20:00] marylynn3: I just remembered a friend who uses http://www.shutterfly.com/ for photo sharing
[20:00] livingcareers: thanks Doug, will do
[20:00] douglaswelch: The conversation continues 24/7 though on the New Media Interchange Community site at http://community.newmediainterchange.com
[20:00] burtlo changed nickname to facebook_user
[20:00] douglaswelch: Post your questions there and we will all chime in!
[20:00] marylynn3: Thanks Douglas. I'm off to check out Nvu! Another fantastic NMI chat :)
[20:01] douglaswelch: Thank you all for coming! Visit the community site and fill out your profiles there.
[20:01] rockwanderer: cool. Catch you on the flip side.
[20:01] douglaswelch: From http://newmediainterchange.com you will also find a link to the NMI Email lsit for announcements of these chats and more
[20:01] livingcareers: bye for now, this was GREAT
[20:02] douglaswelch: The transcript of this chat will appear on both of these sites, too
[20:02] douglaswelch: Join us again in 2 weeks on Dec 8, 2009
[20:03] douglaswelch: Announcement of this upcoming will appear on all the New Media Interchange sites
[20:04] douglaswelch: Thanks again everyone! Bring your questions and we will help bring the power of New Media to you!
[20:05] douglaswelch: Be well all and Happy Thanksgiving!
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